Ek persoonlik dink grond word in boere se beheer geplaas wat nie weet van boerdery af nie en dan die eerste jaar of so het hulle 'n goeie oes want die vorige boer het regstellings aan die grond gemaak maar hulle maak nie regstellings nie en dan gaan die grond agteruit en vernietg en die grond se potensiaal verlaag.
Wie se verantwoordelikheid is dit dan om eerstens te verseker dat grond korrek bestuur word en tweedens om volhoubaar te boer. Dit help nie almal wys vinger maar staan agteruit en kyk toe hoe vrugbare grond tot niet gaan nie. Dit is almal in die landbou bedryf wat 'n bydra kan maak.
From my point of view i think South-Africans have such a huge burdon to bare in terms of having to produce maximum yield with very little resources such as capital and other support from the government. Therefor they cant manage the soil and resources, obtain a very high yield, feed the nation and manage resources in scuh a manner to keep it sustained for future generation to use all at the same time. Food price fixing is also a major issue that should be looked into.
Is government support not going to make things worse in terms of degradation. There is no appreciation if you do not have to work for something and you can continue with bad practices because government will carry the consequences and actually the don't.
I totally agree,because lets face it, they have done more harm than any good to our resources by depleting most of our lands and resources to first of all put SA on the map and secondly to maintain a healthy economic system. But still the countries higher authority are so ignorant to the fact that we can't compete with first world countries such as Great Britain for example. therfor they do to our land whatever they see fit to in a way "impress" other countries.
Aardverwarming vernietig ons landbou grond, temperature styg en reenval raak al hoe minder. Gebiede wat as potensiele boer gebiede gebruik kan word, word deur die natuur se aksies vernietig vvor dit ontdek word, dan ook weer die mens is die oorsaak van aardverwarming.
Maar daardie mense wat vernietiging en verwoesting saai het ook die vaardigheid om dinge te stel. Die mens kan dink, nuwe goed ontwikkel en aanpas tot voordeel van hulself.
What im trying to say and add on is that inexperienced farmers cant be all to blame when this is what the government told them to do. They were given a recipe.The farms they got weren't as we would call it "proof plase", it was given with the purpose to produce and at the same time build up experience like all the other older and more experienced farmers.
you aboslutely right, nobody received farms and those that did had valid reason and proof for why it was allocated tot them. Many years ago the same commersial farmers also made mistakes for which we still carry the consequences today. This same commercial farmers also continue with high intensity farming without putting back or lowering inputs.
So basically every one is playing a blame game, every one talks but nobody really listens. all im saying is, if the government start taking responsibility and take action and stop trying to make things happen over night than our country will not have these kind of problem in the future.
South Africans in general seem to forget or overlook the value of land that is viable for agriculture. The government seems to see land as a pleasing mechanism for the public to see that they are trying to support the farmers. Farmers on the other hand seem to not realise or are not interested in the fact that they are depleting the natural resources of their lands and at the same time could be avoided if farmers would come to terms with technology and scientists. In the the long run technology could possibly secure better environment and income and so would farmers benefit from scientific work and research. The biggest issue with farmers is that they are still stuck in the old ways and only look to land as a profit making process by ensuring maximum output from the land. In terms of "playing with soil" one could see it in the sense that farmers are not playing enough with their soil in a research or scientific way but South Africans are "playing with soil" as in they are playing with fire due to depleting soil and maximising cultivation and in the end destroying it. This would mean that farmers would have to leave the land to rest for a very long time which still does not guaranty that the land would be able to repair itself and in turn causes the farmer to deplete other lands to make up for any lost land.
This very well summarised and as human nature we have to blame someone. In this case they either blame the government for not supporting them or they blame BBBEE projects. And in both instances the farmer must start with his/her own business and do things right.
oorbeweiding en uitputting is 'n groot bydraer, maar die onmiddellike vraag is, wat of hoe kan hulle anders doen met die minste moontlike insette? Dit is vir hulle nie moontlik nie. En die gaping tussen navorsing en die produsent vererger dit aangesien die produsent nie 'n betroubare adviseer in hierdie verband het nie.
ek dink die mynberdyf is grond se groot vernietigers want hulle vergiftig die grond,hulle breek grond se struktuur,hulle is n gevaar vir watertafels en erosie.Delwers wat privaat bedrewighede het koop grond by somige boere oor omdat hul dink daar is potensiaal vir goed soos diamante en goud en erts.Hulle delf dan op baie kosbare,goeie landbougrond en wanner hul hulpbronne opraak omrede dit maar net n klein bedryf was of hul finansies raak min dan los hul die gate net so of van hul maak dit toe en sorg nie dat dit weer herstel nie.Daardie grond herstel baie stadig.Boere wil dan nie weer die grond koop nie.Die grond staan ook oop en erosie vind plaas en indringer bosse groei daarop.In die Noordkaap rondom Barkleywes en Posmansburg sien mens baie van die oop grond en gate wat nooit gevul was nie.
is dit dan nie die ideale geleentheid vir navorsing om na moontlike herstel of rehabilitasie van hierdie gronde te kyk nie? Dit is 'n belangrike bedryf in S.A en besorg ons hoë buitelndse valuta. Gaan kyk na die ondergrondse boerderye in Japan
I feel that South Africans generally don’t care about the extent in which they destroy the soil or exploit the soil. I feel that we have this mentality that as long as it doesn’t affect me and my income its ok. I feel that we think that there is enough fertile soil in South African and that we think that the way we are farming it will have a very small effect or minimum effect on the soil in the long run . We as South Africans don’t understand the economic value soil has and how essential it is too our survival. We have very little knowledge of our environment and the changes it is experiencing.
You have summarised this very well and it is correct. We therefore should increase our education programmes for conservation and resource management. It is a mindset change that will take more than a generation to have an effect. The greed of people and their selfishness also contribute.
South africans are building too many houses in areas that can be used for agricultural puposes.Agricultural is also being decreaes by the building of new roads.This is due too the greed of humans to have to much than is nessary.We should live more economically so that our natural resources can be uesd as effectivly as possible
This means that the biggest problem is the ever increasing population. It is humans and the basic needs are food and shelter and in South Africa people are settling and building house structures in the flood plaines and areas that are not suitable for houses. And with this farmers are using poor quality soil for agricultural purposes and with high input cost, food prices actually increase.
Grond is die belangrikste hulpbron tot die mensdom se beskikking, en volgens my doen Suid Afrikaners nie genoeg om dit volhoubaar te bestuur nie. Deur grond te bewerk word dit beskadig, na bewerkig is waneer die meeste skade aangerig weens wind en water erosie. Dit is dus van kardinale belang dat die regte bewerkings metode toegepas word. Ons moet veral meer gebruik maak van minimum en geenbewerking. Dit sal 'n goeie begin wees na die strewe na volhoubare en verantwoordelike grondgebruik.
Dit is doodreg, maar kan enige produsent dit bekostig? Wat gaan met sy produksie wees as die metodes drasties verander. En hoe sal die voedselproduksie van die wêreld wees as alles so verander.
grond word vernietig deur oorbewyding in lang tydperkes sonder om wyding grond te laat rus. Grond vir bewyding moet gereeld afgewissel word sodat ou bewydingsgronde weer kan herstel.as daardie grond uitgeput word sal dit met verloop van tyd ons plaaslike grond al meer verminder en ons gaan met i grooooot dilemma sit! ek hoop die STORMERS wen die naweek.. yaaaahhh
Dit kos tussen R4 000 en R8 000 om grond wat deur oorbeweiding vernietig was te herstel. Produsente kan dit nie bekostig nie en daar is geen goedkoper alternatiewe wat vir die produsente gebied word nie. Finansiële instellings verskaf egter die krediet aan produsente en hulle kan bloot voere aankoop en daar is geen nodigheid om dus die grond te herstel nie. Nuweland is baie vrugbare grond en miskien moet dit omskep word in landerye waar ons voedsel produseer. Meer mense sal daarby baat vind as die paar wat vir 80 minute genot daaruit put.
ja maar hulle is reeds besig met planne om nuwelnad af te breek en groenpunt toe te skuif, daar is ook reeds planne dat nuweland se gronde gebruik gaan word om woonstelblokke te bou, sodat meer mense behuising kan hê. WP Mulder
a factor in which people harm the soil is definatly by illegal dumping. harmful waste and chemicals are often improperly disposed of on open lands and in soil. this might be getting rid of waste but in return it is creating a problem with decreasing growth potential and fertility of soil. it is important that people are educated about where to dump there waste correctly and responsibly in such a way that it it does not pollute the soil.
Regardless of where you dump, it is still waste that needs to be process and it is ever increasing. It is correct to say that education plays a vital role but we have to educate and show people the what the consequences will be if they do not change.
Farmers need to use different farming techniques in order to maximise the yield and to take proper preventative methods to avoid the land from becoming infertile. Farmers need to be educated in using these techniques and methods.
Would you then say that adding fertilisers and soil cultivations are enough? We take more from the soil especially with intensive farming and the pressure to supply for international markets and we are not able to put back what we take out
No,once the natural nutrients are removed from the soil it is rather difficult to replace it with fertilisers. Therefore good management is needed to control the amount of nutrients taken out by a specific crop. The farmer could also change crops for (example one year they could plant potatos and the next maybe butternut) this type of management will prevent the loss of specific nutrients in the soil allowing the soil to "rest". Certain crop use nutrients from the soil that others do not need therfore it helps the farmers to preserve their land and make it more fertile for the future.
Another problem we face as a nation is a lack of respect and understanding for the value of soil (land) as a resource. The majority of our country is populated by poor individuals that are primarily concerned with staying alive and conservation is not a part of their day to day living. As a result we find many rural areas grosely polluted, overgrazed, with exploited natural resources etc. So it can thus be argued that the people of South Africa require sufficient and appropriate education.
Education is the answer to many of these issues. It is also not only about staying alive but everyone wants to have a luxury life which requires more from the environment. People with this mindset do not care about those that are less fortunate or hungry because they are too busy building their own empire.
I agree entirely Ma'am. Once again the problem is the system. This system was put in place by people and can thus be fixed by them, regarding they can change their attitude and place their own interests after the interests of others. But people are selfish...
I believe in South Africa , farmers tend to “play” with the soil with destructive techniques in hope of maximizing their profit but in the long run this destroys the soil resulting in a loss of fertility and thus lower yield. I think that this is just due to pure lack of knowledge and also lack of interest to even want to obtain that knowledge. Soil is so important to us and we all need to know that, especially the farmers of our lands in order to sustain our soils so that the growing of our crops will be possible in the future. Soil cultivation as we should know, eventually destroys all the soil aggregates which takes hundreds of years to get restored if at all possible, depending on the damage. Soil is also known as a non-renewable resource so surely we should all be more interested in looking after it since it is so important. Erosion is another huge problem that may result from intensive cultivation.
This is correct, but is it possible to rectify the problems of farmers for the past 500 years? And how do we get the current commercial farmers to realise that their actions now will have a negative effect for future generations
Suid-Afrikaners het behoefte aaan behuising en dus waar politukus geleentheid sien om stemme te verwerf.EN Sodoende neem hul produsernde landbougrond weg en vernietig dit.EN steeds minder landbougrond beskikbaar wees waarop die regering meer voedsel verlang.
En wat van al die huise wat op vloedvlaktes en ondergeskikte gebiede gebou word? Waar trek ons die streep of wie is beter: die een wie die grond intensief boer en agteruit laat gaan of die een wie huise bou om in die behoeftes van die ewigdurende groeiende populasie te voorsien.
Suid-Afrikaners besef nie dat grond goed bestuur moet word om dit volhoubaar te hou nie. Sommige boere is oningelig oor hoe om die grond korrek te bestuur en sodoende put hulle die grond in so 'n mate uit dat dit jare vat voor dit kan herstel en in daardie tydperk is die grond nutteloos vir gewas verbouing. Alle boere moet ingelig wees oor hoe om hul grond te bestuur. As almal nou besef wat hulle aksies is en wat die nagevolge daarvan is sal die grond volhoubaar kan bly vir toekomstige generasies. Kommersiele boere moet besef dat hulle hul grond in 'n volhoubare manier moet gebruik om dit vir die toekoms bruikbaar te hou.
Is dit nie hierdie presiese kommersiële boere wat met jare lange se onoordeelkundige boerdery bygedra het tot die agteruitgang nie. Nou besef hulle die dilemma waarin ons verkeer en is eerste om grond aan "BBBEE" projekte af te staan? Dit is ook korrek dat jy noem dat alternatiewe noodsaaklik is maar êrens moet mense oor hierdie alternatiewe ingelig word.
Grond word nie goed bestuur nie want ons dink daar5 is so baie daarvan maar ons besef nie dit raak al hoe minder nie en dat die meeste van die aarde uit water bestaan. Ons moet ons grond goed bestuur en ek dink die probleem kom in want ons het nie genoeg kennis en alotyd die fondse om dt te doen nie. Ek dink ook boere moet nie meer net vir hulle self boer nie maar saam span in gemeenskappe om te verseker dat daar na grond gekyk word en dat al die grond op die beste manier as moontlik gebruik word. Die kwessie van te min kos teen 2040 was nogals n groot skok. Die videoclip het my laat dink. Ons gebruik so baie graan of sekere soorte kos vir die gebruik van alkohol. Ons het nie alkolhol nodig nie en ek dink dis een van die goed wat ons die meeste voedsel mee mors.
Dit is goed om te sien dat iemand deur die feite in die videoclip geraak was. Ons het defnitief 'n probleem met omgewingsopvoedkunde en daar is nie genoegsame persone wie se aksies 'n verskil kan maak nie. Dit beteken dat elke persoon moet by hom/haarself begin en sodoende brei dit uit
It is difficult for emerging farmers to comply with sustainability of natural resources and especialy soil, the reason for this is the main objectives of the farmers which are profit maximisation and presure of credit payment. these famers mostly research on production techniques and making the most of the limited resources they have, which is good for production. there is also political presure on farmers who recieved the farms through land reform so they focus on production yield increas at what ever nature price. So it is not only nature that south africans have a hard time to have concern for. we live NOW.
Despite the circumstances, we still have a respnsibility towards the environment and if we do not act now then we will end up with no soil to produce food or production cost that is so high that normal people can not afford basic food.
some other farmers use soil just to prove to other farmers and to the community that he can do better than someone or to compete with them and use soil irresponsibly and without looking the outcomes of using soil responsible.
We live in a world where the population is increasing at an alarming rate and someone has to produce food for them. The production of food is good income for farmers and they use this to increase their wealth to the detriment of the soil and other essential resources.
Everything we do revolve around soil and this is one thing we cannot runaway from.Politicians are winning votes by building houses for an ever increasing population and engineers are destroying soil to gets what is inside and this is how they make living out of destroying what is important.No one cares about soil,as long as you get what you want,it doesnt matter.the question arise to all south africans,how is the living going to be like in 50 years to come if we do not protect soil.
That is absolutely correct and the immediate question is who will take responsibility to make this shift? is the actions of a few individuals in a world where population increase so sharply enough?
Boere, politikiste, ingeneurs ens is almal besig om ons land se grond te oorbenut. Die veranderings wat nodig is om die sitsuasie te red is so drasties en skielik nodig en asgevolg van ons as mense se gierigheid sal dit nie betyds kan realiser nie. Ek glo moeder natuur SAL altyd wen, ons as mense is niks meer as gloryfied diere nie, in die natuur sal n spesie floreer solank daar na sy basiese behoeftes voorsien word (bv kos,water en genoegsame land). Maar as een van hul behoeftes opraak sal die populasie van die spesie daal totdat hul weer min genoeg is vir die omgewing om te ondersteun. Ons het lank en lekker "gespeel" maar die bal is nou stadig maar seker besig om in moeder natuur se hande te val.
Die huidige natuurrampe,HIV/VIGS en klimaatsverandering is sekerlik tekens hiervan, maar is dit aanvaarbaar om te sê die aarde sal ditself uit sorteer? Dit is mense se lewens en dit is hierdie spesifieke mense wat 'n verskil kan maak. Die vraag is hoe en waar begin dit?
Dit begin by elkeen van ons as induvidue, ons moet eers herken die probleem is n realiteit en besef die oplossing le in elkeen van ons se hande, maar vir baie van ons is daardie konsep alleen te groot om te begreip of dis net makliker om dit te ignoreer. Dis n mensgemaakte probleem en dis nie reg om te verwag dat die natuur homself moet uitsorteer nie maar ek dink tog dit is waarop dit gaan neerkom. Ons kan dit dalk uitstel deur almal ons deel te doen maar die probleem gaan ons inhaal.
ek voel dat suid afrikaners oor die algemeen nie n benul het hoe hom grond volhoubaar te hanteer nie. of dit nou in die landbou ,mynbou of argitektektuur is, is irelefant. suid afrikaners gee nie om oor hoe hule die grond nou vernietig of laat irodeer nie. mense stel net belang oor nou, die hede en gee nie om oor die toekoms nie. wette om grondbeskerming en hulpbron bestuur toe te pas sal moet versterk. suid afrikaners sal beter opgelei moet word tov grond bestuur . die grond is waaruit ons toekoms gan bestaan . ons moet dit oppas
Dit is baie goed opgesom. Ons het die beste van omgewings- en bewaringswette maar daar moet uitgevoer word en dit is waar die "pap op die grond val". Jy noem ook 'n belangrike punt van opvoeding en dit is sekerlik een aspek waar ons en die res van die wêreld nie genoegsame aandag gee nie.
Boere bestuur die grond verkeerd en gebruik verkeerde metodes.Alles kom neer op "haal meer uit as wat ingesit word" . Mens kan nie net met n motor ry en hom nie diens nie dit gan breek op n tyd en so ook grond dit moet na gekyk word en 'gediens" word sodat dit lank kan hou. BEE word asook nie reg toegepas nie, want die 'swart' mense waarvoor die plase gegee word het nie die kennis om die plase suksesvol te boer nie en die staat help hulle ook nie so landbougrond word vermors. Simpel sokker stadions word gebou op goeie landbou grond wat nie eers meer voluit gebruik word nie asook n klomp woonstel blokke ens. Dit alles kom neer op grondvermorsing en die uitputting van grond. Die hoof probleem is geld in die wereld.. geld word as n magsitem gesien en almal wil net meer geld he en he maar wil nie terugsit in die natuur nie.
Die BBBEE projekte van die staat gaan ook net oor geld in die produsent se sak. 'n Passievolle produsent wat die waarde en toekoms van landbou op die hart dra sal nie net grond verkoop en weet dat dit in die hande van onopgeleide mense gaan beland nie. Vir daardie produsente is dit weer 'n geleentheid om hulle rykdom te bevorder.
There are many ways in which soils are being affected in South Africa. But overgrazing is the most ubiquitous and concerning cause of soils being destroyed. Also, this country is regarded as a 'semi-arid' area by the UN and that is largely why "sensitive" soils and ecosysytems are put under immense pressure - we have dry soils and become easily overused because of it. By reading some of the comments of others, clearly the apartheid legacy also played a role. The lack of resources in certain areas induces migration aswell, which put overcrowded areas, to a certain degree, under threat too.
We now moving from semi-arid to arid in certain regions and despite this it is still necessary to supply in the demand of an ever increasing population. Just because we are stuck in a system of overuse and degradation does not mean that it should continue. It is that attitude specifically that result in continued degradation.
It is in some cases a rigid attitude which is heavily influenced by South Africa's past. It is a great challenge for those correlated and the government.
Ek persoonlik dink dat ons kan vir baie mense die skuld gee oor wie eindlik ons land se grond vernietig en dan kan ons weer vir baie mense erkening gee oor wie ons land se grond opbou en weer en probeer om volhoubaarheid toe te pas. Soos die myne wat diep gate grawe en nie weer die grond probeer om te herwin nie en dan ook nog al die ondergrond se water besoedel deur al die chemikalle in die water te pomp en dit gaan veroorsaak dat ons land se water al minder gebruikbaar word en ja die myne moet navorsing doen,maar dan moet hulle die gronde probeer herstel en te herwin nadat hulle klaar gemyn het.Die regeering wat nou besig is om met opkomende boere meer leer om hoe te plant en meer swart mense betrokke te kry om sy eie tuintjie grontes te plant help in n sekere mate om mense bewus te maak van volhoubaarheid omdat ons landbou grond raak minder weens die stede wat grooter raak en die onbosting van die woude
Grond word deur 'n groot verskeidenheid partye beïnvloed. Baie kan gesê word oor die boerderymetodes en oorbeweiding ensovoorts, maar ek voel dat die grootste kwessie ontwikkelings is. Baie van ons land se kosbare landbougrond word vernietig om plek te maak vir nuwe ontwikkelings. Ons populasie word al groter en meer voedsel word benodig en dus kort ons meer landbougrond. Deeglike navorsing moet eers gedoen word om te kyk of die grond nie geskik is vir landbou nie, voordat dit gebruik word vir ontwikkelings. dan kan daar gekyk word na die verskillende boerderytegnieke sodat die beste moontlike metode van boer gebruik word sodat ons ons grond volhoubaar benut.
Toe boere destyd geboer het hul hul verstandig geboer, so dat dit vir nageslagte behoue bly en maksimum uit die grond te kry sonder om dit enigsins te benadeel.
Boere in die huidige tye fokus hoofsaaklik op die opbrengs met geld as hoof dryfkrag agter hulle. Daar word allerhande nuwe tegnologie gebruik, snaakste spuitstowwe, en wille steroiedes, alles om groter, vinniger en hoer te boer...
So put boere grond net uit en help nie veel deur oorbewyding ook langs die kant toe te pas nie.
Boere moet weer teruggaan na strookverbouing, wisselbou en organiese verbouingsmetodes.
Suid-Afrikaanse grond word oor die afgelope 5-10 ernstig vernietig, veral deur oorbeweiding, verkeerde bewerking metodes, en om jaar na jaar dieselfde gewas op dieselfde grond te plant. Baie ontwikkelings en golf landgoede put ook ons landbou grond in SA uit.
Baie besoedeling bv. van myne, wat die water bronne besoedel, kan dan tot n mate ook die grond besoedel, en die grond kan dan ook sy produktiwiteit verloor.
Daar is verskeie maniere om hierdie probleme te bekamp, maar dit is moeilik om dit te bestuur.
Boere wat plase kry d.m.v grondhervorming is nie altyd die beste boere nie,ek kan ook die grond uitput deur kampe oor te bewei, om nie wiiselbou toe te pas nie, en ook nie met die regte implemente die grond kan bestuur nie. JJ Gous 17302404
Ek persoonlik dink grond word in boere se beheer geplaas wat nie weet van boerdery af nie en dan die eerste jaar of so het hulle 'n goeie oes want die vorige boer het regstellings aan die grond gemaak maar hulle maak nie regstellings nie en dan gaan die grond agteruit en vernietg en die grond se potensiaal verlaag.
ReplyDeleteWie se verantwoordelikheid is dit dan om eerstens te verseker dat grond korrek bestuur word en tweedens om volhoubaar te boer. Dit help nie almal wys vinger maar staan agteruit en kyk toe hoe vrugbare grond tot niet gaan nie. Dit is almal in die landbou bedryf wat 'n bydra kan maak.
ReplyDeleteFrom my point of view i think South-Africans have such a huge burdon to bare in terms of having to produce maximum yield with very little resources such as capital and other support from the government. Therefor they cant manage the soil and resources, obtain a very high yield, feed the nation and manage resources in scuh a manner to keep it sustained for future generation to use all at the same time. Food price fixing is also a major issue that should be looked into.
ReplyDeleteIs government support not going to make things worse in terms of degradation. There is no appreciation if you do not have to work for something and you can continue with bad practices because government will carry the consequences and actually the don't.
DeleteI totally agree,because lets face it, they have done more harm than any good to our resources by depleting most of our lands and resources to first of all put SA on the map and secondly to maintain a healthy economic system. But still the countries higher authority are so ignorant to the fact that we can't compete with first world countries such as Great Britain for example. therfor they do to our land whatever they see fit to in a way "impress" other countries.
DeleteAardverwarming vernietig ons landbou grond, temperature styg en reenval raak al hoe minder. Gebiede wat as potensiele boer gebiede gebruik kan word, word deur die natuur se aksies vernietig vvor dit ontdek word, dan ook weer die mens is die oorsaak van aardverwarming.
ReplyDeleteMaar daardie mense wat vernietiging en verwoesting saai het ook die vaardigheid om dinge te stel. Die mens kan dink, nuwe goed ontwikkel en aanpas tot voordeel van hulself.
DeleteWhat im trying to say and add on is that inexperienced farmers cant be all to blame when this is what the government told them to do. They were given a recipe.The farms they got weren't as we would call it "proof plase", it was given with the purpose to produce and at the same time build up experience like all the other older and more experienced farmers.
ReplyDeleteyou aboslutely right, nobody received farms and those that did had valid reason and proof for why it was allocated tot them. Many years ago the same commersial farmers also made mistakes for which we still carry the consequences today. This same commercial farmers also continue with high intensity farming without putting back or lowering inputs.
DeleteSo basically every one is playing a blame game, every one talks but nobody really listens. all im saying is, if the government start taking responsibility and take action and stop trying to make things happen over night than our country will not have these kind of problem in the future.
DeleteSouth Africans in general seem to forget or overlook the value of land that is viable for agriculture. The government seems to see land as a pleasing mechanism for the public to see that they are trying to support the farmers. Farmers on the other hand seem to not realise or are not interested in the fact that they are depleting the natural resources of their lands and at the same time could be avoided if farmers would come to terms with technology and scientists. In the the long run technology could possibly secure better environment and income and so would farmers benefit from scientific work and research. The biggest issue with farmers is that they are still stuck in the old ways and only look to land as a profit making process by ensuring maximum output from the land. In terms of "playing with soil" one could see it in the sense that farmers are not playing enough with their soil in a research or scientific way but South Africans are "playing with soil" as in they are playing with fire due to depleting soil and maximising cultivation and in the end destroying it. This would mean that farmers would have to leave the land to rest for a very long time which still does not guaranty that the land would be able to repair itself and in turn causes the farmer to deplete other lands to make up for any lost land.
ReplyDeleteThis very well summarised and as human nature we have to blame someone. In this case they either blame the government for not supporting them or they blame BBBEE projects. And in both instances the farmer must start with his/her own business and do things right.
DeleteDeur dit uit te put, deur oorbeweiding en om gereeld gewasse te plant sonder om grond te laat rus en vir verstedeliking.
ReplyDeleteLeon Wessels - 17171555
oorbeweiding en uitputting is 'n groot bydraer, maar die onmiddellike vraag is, wat of hoe kan hulle anders doen met die minste moontlike insette? Dit is vir hulle nie moontlik nie. En die gaping tussen navorsing en die produsent vererger dit aangesien die produsent nie 'n betroubare adviseer in hierdie verband het nie.
Deleteek dink die mynberdyf is grond se groot vernietigers want hulle vergiftig die grond,hulle breek grond se struktuur,hulle is n gevaar vir watertafels en erosie.Delwers wat privaat bedrewighede het koop grond by somige boere oor omdat hul dink daar is potensiaal vir goed soos diamante en goud en erts.Hulle delf dan op baie kosbare,goeie landbougrond en wanner hul hulpbronne opraak omrede dit maar net n klein bedryf was of hul finansies raak min dan los hul die gate net so of van hul maak dit toe en sorg nie dat dit weer herstel nie.Daardie grond herstel baie stadig.Boere wil dan nie weer die grond koop nie.Die grond staan ook oop en erosie vind plaas en indringer bosse groei daarop.In die Noordkaap rondom Barkleywes en Posmansburg sien mens baie van die oop grond en gate wat nooit gevul was nie.
ReplyDeleteis dit dan nie die ideale geleentheid vir navorsing om na moontlike herstel of rehabilitasie van hierdie gronde te kyk nie? Dit is 'n belangrike bedryf in S.A en besorg ons hoë buitelndse valuta. Gaan kyk na die ondergrondse boerderye in Japan
DeleteI feel that South Africans generally don’t care about the extent in which they destroy the soil or exploit the soil. I feel that we have this mentality that as long as it doesn’t affect me and my income its ok. I feel that we think that there is enough fertile soil in South African and that we think that the way we are farming it will have a very small effect or minimum effect on the soil in the long run . We as South Africans don’t understand the economic value soil has and how essential it is too our survival. We have very little knowledge of our environment and the changes it is experiencing.
ReplyDeleteYou have summarised this very well and it is correct. We therefore should increase our education programmes for conservation and resource management. It is a mindset change that will take more than a generation to have an effect. The greed of people and their selfishness also contribute.
DeleteSouth africans are building too many houses in areas that can be used for agricultural puposes.Agricultural is also being decreaes by the building of new roads.This is due too the greed of humans to have to much than is nessary.We should live more economically so that our natural resources can be uesd as effectivly as possible
ReplyDeleteThis means that the biggest problem is the ever increasing population. It is humans and the basic needs are food and shelter and in South Africa people are settling and building house structures in the flood plaines and areas that are not suitable for houses. And with this farmers are using poor quality soil for agricultural purposes and with high input cost, food prices actually increase.
DeleteGrond is die belangrikste hulpbron tot die mensdom se beskikking, en volgens my doen Suid Afrikaners nie genoeg om dit volhoubaar te bestuur nie. Deur grond te bewerk word dit beskadig, na bewerkig is waneer die meeste skade aangerig weens wind en water erosie. Dit is dus van kardinale belang dat die regte bewerkings metode toegepas word. Ons moet veral meer gebruik maak van minimum en geenbewerking. Dit sal 'n goeie begin wees na die strewe na volhoubare en verantwoordelike grondgebruik.
ReplyDeleteDit is doodreg, maar kan enige produsent dit bekostig? Wat gaan met sy produksie wees as die metodes drasties verander. En hoe sal die voedselproduksie van die wêreld wees as alles so verander.
Deletegrond word vernietig deur oorbewyding in lang tydperkes sonder om wyding grond te laat rus. Grond vir bewyding moet gereeld afgewissel word sodat ou bewydingsgronde weer kan herstel.as daardie grond uitgeput word sal dit met verloop van tyd ons plaaslike grond al meer verminder en ons gaan met i grooooot dilemma sit! ek hoop die STORMERS wen die naweek.. yaaaahhh
ReplyDeleteDit kos tussen R4 000 en R8 000 om grond wat deur oorbeweiding vernietig was te herstel. Produsente kan dit nie bekostig nie en daar is geen goedkoper alternatiewe wat vir die produsente gebied word nie. Finansiële instellings verskaf egter die krediet aan produsente en hulle kan bloot voere aankoop en daar is geen nodigheid om dus die grond te herstel nie.
DeleteNuweland is baie vrugbare grond en miskien moet dit omskep word in landerye waar ons voedsel produseer. Meer mense sal daarby baat vind as die paar wat vir 80 minute genot daaruit put.
ja maar hulle is reeds besig met planne om nuwelnad af te breek en groenpunt toe te skuif, daar is ook reeds planne dat nuweland se gronde gebruik gaan word om woonstelblokke te bou, sodat meer mense behuising kan hê.
DeleteWP Mulder
a factor in which people harm the soil is definatly by illegal dumping. harmful waste and chemicals are often improperly disposed of on open lands and in soil. this might be getting rid of waste but in return it is creating a problem with decreasing growth potential and fertility of soil. it is important that people are educated about where to dump there waste correctly and responsibly in such a way that it it does not pollute the soil.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of where you dump, it is still waste that needs to be process and it is ever increasing. It is correct to say that education plays a vital role but we have to educate and show people the what the consequences will be if they do not change.
DeleteFarmers need to use different farming techniques in order to maximise the yield and to take proper preventative methods to avoid the land from becoming infertile. Farmers need to be educated in using these techniques and methods.
ReplyDeleteWould you then say that adding fertilisers and soil cultivations are enough? We take more from the soil especially with intensive farming and the pressure to supply for international markets and we are not able to put back what we take out
DeleteNo,once the natural nutrients are removed from the soil it is rather difficult to replace it with fertilisers. Therefore good management is needed to control the amount of nutrients taken out by a specific crop. The farmer could also change crops for (example one year they could plant potatos and the next maybe butternut) this type of management will prevent the loss of specific nutrients in the soil allowing the soil to "rest". Certain crop use nutrients from the soil that others do not need therfore it helps the farmers to preserve their land and make it more fertile for the future.
DeleteAnother problem we face as a nation is a lack of respect and understanding for the value of soil (land) as a resource. The majority of our country is populated by poor individuals that are primarily concerned with staying alive and conservation is not a part of their day to day living. As a result we find many rural areas grosely polluted, overgrazed, with exploited natural resources etc.
ReplyDeleteSo it can thus be argued that the people of South Africa require sufficient and appropriate education.
Education is the answer to many of these issues. It is also not only about staying alive but everyone wants to have a luxury life which requires more from the environment. People with this mindset do not care about those that are less fortunate or hungry because they are too busy building their own empire.
DeleteI agree entirely Ma'am. Once again the problem is the system. This system was put in place by people and can thus be fixed by them, regarding they can change their attitude and place their own interests after the interests of others. But people are selfish...
DeleteI believe in South Africa , farmers tend to “play” with the soil with destructive techniques in hope of maximizing their profit but in the long run this destroys the soil resulting in a loss of fertility and thus lower yield. I think that this is just due to pure lack of knowledge and also lack of interest to even want to obtain that knowledge. Soil is so important to us and we all need to know that, especially the farmers of our lands in order to sustain our soils so that the growing of our crops will be possible in the future. Soil cultivation as we should know, eventually destroys all the soil aggregates which takes hundreds of years to get restored if at all possible, depending on the damage. Soil is also known as a non-renewable resource so surely we should all be more interested in looking after it since it is so important. Erosion is another huge problem that may result from intensive cultivation.
ReplyDeleteThis is correct, but is it possible to rectify the problems of farmers for the past 500 years? And how do we get the current commercial farmers to realise that their actions now will have a negative effect for future generations
ReplyDeleteSuid-Afrikaners het behoefte aaan behuising en dus waar politukus geleentheid sien om stemme te verwerf.EN Sodoende neem hul produsernde landbougrond weg en vernietig dit.EN steeds minder landbougrond beskikbaar wees waarop die regering meer voedsel verlang.
ReplyDeleteEn wat van al die huise wat op vloedvlaktes en ondergeskikte gebiede gebou word? Waar trek ons die streep of wie is beter: die een wie die grond intensief boer en agteruit laat gaan of die een wie huise bou om in die behoeftes van die ewigdurende groeiende populasie te voorsien.
DeleteSuid-Afrikaners besef nie dat grond goed bestuur moet word om dit volhoubaar te hou nie. Sommige boere is oningelig oor hoe om die grond korrek te bestuur en sodoende put hulle die grond in so 'n mate uit dat dit jare vat voor dit kan herstel en in daardie tydperk is die grond nutteloos vir gewas verbouing. Alle boere moet ingelig wees oor hoe om hul grond te bestuur. As almal nou besef wat hulle aksies is en wat die nagevolge daarvan is sal die grond volhoubaar kan bly vir toekomstige generasies. Kommersiele boere moet besef dat hulle hul grond in 'n volhoubare manier moet gebruik om dit vir die toekoms bruikbaar te hou.
ReplyDeleteIs dit nie hierdie presiese kommersiële boere wat met jare lange se onoordeelkundige boerdery bygedra het tot die agteruitgang nie. Nou besef hulle die dilemma waarin ons verkeer en is eerste om grond aan "BBBEE" projekte af te staan? Dit is ook korrek dat jy noem dat alternatiewe noodsaaklik is maar êrens moet mense oor hierdie alternatiewe ingelig word.
DeleteGrond word nie goed bestuur nie want ons dink daar5 is so baie daarvan maar ons besef nie dit raak al hoe minder nie en dat die meeste van die aarde uit water bestaan. Ons moet ons grond goed bestuur en ek dink die probleem kom in want ons het nie genoeg kennis en alotyd die fondse om dt te doen nie. Ek dink ook boere moet nie meer net vir hulle self boer nie maar saam span in gemeenskappe om te verseker dat daar na grond gekyk word en dat al die grond op die beste manier as moontlik gebruik word. Die kwessie van te min kos teen 2040 was nogals n groot skok. Die videoclip het my laat dink. Ons gebruik so baie graan of sekere soorte kos vir die gebruik van alkohol. Ons het nie alkolhol nodig nie en ek dink dis een van die goed wat ons die meeste voedsel mee mors.
ReplyDeleteDit is goed om te sien dat iemand deur die feite in die videoclip geraak was. Ons het defnitief 'n probleem met omgewingsopvoedkunde en daar is nie genoegsame persone wie se aksies 'n verskil kan maak nie. Dit beteken dat elke persoon moet by hom/haarself begin en sodoende brei dit uit
DeleteIt is difficult for emerging farmers to comply with sustainability of natural resources and especialy soil, the reason for this is the main objectives of the farmers which are profit maximisation and presure of credit payment. these famers mostly research on production techniques and making the most of the limited resources they have, which is good for production. there is also political presure on farmers who recieved the farms through land reform so they focus on production yield increas at what ever nature price. So it is not only nature that south africans have a hard time to have concern for. we live NOW.
ReplyDeleteDespite the circumstances, we still have a respnsibility towards the environment and if we do not act now then we will end up with no soil to produce food or production cost that is so high that normal people can not afford basic food.
Deletesome other farmers use soil just to prove to other farmers and to the community that he can do better than someone or to compete with them and use soil irresponsibly and without looking the outcomes of using soil responsible.
ReplyDeleteWe live in a world where the population is increasing at an alarming rate and someone has to produce food for them. The production of food is good income for farmers and they use this to increase their wealth to the detriment of the soil and other essential resources.
DeleteEverything we do revolve around soil and this is one thing we cannot runaway from.Politicians are winning votes by building houses for an ever increasing population and engineers are destroying soil to gets what is inside and this is how they make living out of destroying what is important.No one cares about soil,as long as you get what you want,it doesnt matter.the question arise to all south africans,how is the living going to be like in 50 years to come if we do not protect soil.
ReplyDeleteThat is absolutely correct and the immediate question is who will take responsibility to make this shift? is the actions of a few individuals in a world where population increase so sharply enough?
DeleteBoere, politikiste, ingeneurs ens is almal besig om ons land se grond te oorbenut. Die veranderings wat nodig is om die sitsuasie te red is so drasties en skielik nodig en asgevolg van ons as mense se gierigheid sal dit nie betyds kan realiser nie. Ek glo moeder natuur SAL altyd wen, ons as mense is niks meer as gloryfied diere nie, in die natuur sal n spesie floreer solank daar na sy basiese behoeftes voorsien word (bv kos,water en genoegsame land). Maar as een van hul behoeftes opraak sal die populasie van die spesie daal totdat hul weer min genoeg is vir die omgewing om te ondersteun. Ons het lank en lekker "gespeel" maar die bal is nou stadig maar seker besig om in moeder natuur se hande te val.
ReplyDeleteDie huidige natuurrampe,HIV/VIGS en klimaatsverandering is sekerlik tekens hiervan, maar is dit aanvaarbaar om te sê die aarde sal ditself uit sorteer? Dit is mense se lewens en dit is hierdie spesifieke mense wat 'n verskil kan maak. Die vraag is hoe en waar begin dit?
DeleteDit begin by elkeen van ons as induvidue, ons moet eers herken die probleem is n realiteit en besef die oplossing le in elkeen van ons se hande, maar vir baie van ons is daardie konsep alleen te groot om te begreip of dis net makliker om dit te ignoreer. Dis n mensgemaakte probleem en dis nie reg om te verwag dat die natuur homself moet uitsorteer nie maar ek dink tog dit is waarop dit gaan neerkom. Ons kan dit dalk uitstel deur almal ons deel te doen maar die probleem gaan ons inhaal.
Deleteek voel dat suid afrikaners oor die algemeen nie n benul het hoe hom grond volhoubaar te hanteer nie. of dit nou in die landbou ,mynbou of argitektektuur is, is irelefant. suid afrikaners gee nie om oor hoe hule die grond nou vernietig of laat irodeer nie. mense stel net belang oor nou, die hede en gee nie om oor die toekoms nie. wette om grondbeskerming en hulpbron bestuur toe te pas sal moet versterk. suid afrikaners sal beter opgelei moet word tov grond bestuur . die grond is waaruit ons toekoms gan bestaan . ons moet dit oppas
ReplyDeleteDit is baie goed opgesom. Ons het die beste van omgewings- en bewaringswette maar daar moet uitgevoer word en dit is waar die "pap op die grond val". Jy noem ook 'n belangrike punt van opvoeding en dit is sekerlik een aspek waar ons en die res van die wêreld nie genoegsame aandag gee nie.
DeleteBoere bestuur die grond verkeerd en gebruik verkeerde metodes.Alles kom neer op "haal meer uit as wat ingesit word" . Mens kan nie net met n motor ry en hom nie diens nie dit gan breek op n tyd en so ook grond dit moet na gekyk word en 'gediens" word sodat dit lank kan hou. BEE word asook nie reg toegepas nie, want die 'swart' mense waarvoor die plase gegee word het nie die kennis om die plase suksesvol te boer nie en die staat help hulle ook nie so landbougrond word vermors. Simpel sokker stadions word gebou op goeie landbou grond wat nie eers meer voluit gebruik word nie asook n klomp woonstel blokke ens. Dit alles kom neer op grondvermorsing en die uitputting van grond. Die hoof probleem is geld in die wereld.. geld word as n magsitem gesien en almal wil net meer geld he en he maar wil nie terugsit in die natuur nie.
ReplyDeleteDie BBBEE projekte van die staat gaan ook net oor geld in die produsent se sak. 'n Passievolle produsent wat die waarde en toekoms van landbou op die hart dra sal nie net grond verkoop en weet dat dit in die hande van onopgeleide mense gaan beland nie. Vir daardie produsente is dit weer 'n geleentheid om hulle rykdom te bevorder.
DeleteThere are many ways in which soils are being affected in South Africa. But overgrazing is the most ubiquitous and concerning cause of soils being destroyed. Also, this country is regarded as a 'semi-arid' area by the UN and that is largely why "sensitive" soils and ecosysytems are put under immense pressure - we have dry soils and become easily overused because of it.
ReplyDeleteBy reading some of the comments of others, clearly the apartheid legacy also played a role.
The lack of resources in certain areas induces migration aswell, which put overcrowded areas, to a certain degree, under threat too.
We now moving from semi-arid to arid in certain regions and despite this it is still necessary to supply in the demand of an ever increasing population. Just because we are stuck in a system of overuse and degradation does not mean that it should continue. It is that attitude specifically that result in continued degradation.
DeleteIt is in some cases a rigid attitude which is heavily influenced by South Africa's past. It is a great challenge for those correlated and the government.
DeleteEk persoonlik dink dat ons kan vir baie mense die skuld gee oor wie eindlik ons land se grond vernietig en dan kan ons weer vir baie mense erkening gee oor wie ons land se grond opbou en weer en probeer om volhoubaarheid toe te pas. Soos die myne wat diep gate grawe en nie weer die grond probeer om te herwin nie en dan ook nog al die ondergrond se water besoedel deur al die chemikalle
ReplyDeletein die water te pomp en dit gaan veroorsaak dat ons land se water al minder gebruikbaar word en ja die myne moet navorsing doen,maar dan moet hulle die gronde probeer herstel en te herwin nadat hulle klaar gemyn het.Die regeering wat nou besig is om met opkomende boere meer leer om hoe te plant en meer swart mense betrokke te kry om sy eie tuintjie grontes te plant help in n sekere mate om mense bewus te maak van volhoubaarheid omdat ons landbou grond raak minder weens die stede wat grooter raak en die onbosting van die woude
Grond word deur 'n groot verskeidenheid partye beïnvloed. Baie kan gesê word oor die boerderymetodes en oorbeweiding ensovoorts, maar ek voel dat die grootste kwessie ontwikkelings is. Baie van ons land se kosbare landbougrond word vernietig om plek te maak vir nuwe ontwikkelings. Ons populasie word al groter en meer voedsel word benodig en dus kort ons meer landbougrond. Deeglike navorsing moet eers gedoen word om te kyk of die grond nie geskik is vir landbou nie, voordat dit gebruik word vir ontwikkelings. dan kan daar gekyk word na die verskillende boerderytegnieke sodat die beste moontlike metode van boer gebruik word sodat ons ons grond volhoubaar benut.
ReplyDeleteToe boere destyd geboer het hul hul verstandig geboer, so dat dit vir nageslagte behoue bly en maksimum uit die grond te kry sonder om dit enigsins te benadeel.
ReplyDeleteBoere in die huidige tye fokus hoofsaaklik op die opbrengs met geld as hoof dryfkrag agter hulle. Daar word allerhande nuwe tegnologie gebruik, snaakste spuitstowwe, en wille steroiedes, alles om groter, vinniger en hoer te boer...
So put boere grond net uit en help nie veel deur oorbewyding ook langs die kant toe te pas nie.
Boere moet weer teruggaan na strookverbouing, wisselbou en organiese verbouingsmetodes.
Wessel de Lange #16968816
Suid-Afrikaanse grond word oor die afgelope 5-10 ernstig vernietig, veral deur oorbeweiding, verkeerde bewerking metodes, en om jaar na jaar dieselfde gewas op dieselfde grond te plant. Baie ontwikkelings en golf landgoede put ook ons landbou grond in SA uit.
ReplyDeleteBaie besoedeling bv. van myne, wat die water bronne besoedel, kan dan tot n mate ook die grond besoedel, en die grond kan dan ook sy produktiwiteit verloor.
Daar is verskeie maniere om hierdie probleme te bekamp, maar dit is moeilik om dit te bestuur.
Boere wat plase kry d.m.v grondhervorming is nie altyd die beste boere nie,ek kan ook die grond uitput deur kampe oor te bewei, om nie wiiselbou toe te pas nie, en ook nie met die regte implemente die grond kan bestuur nie.
JJ Gous
17302404
Grond word vernietig deur oorbeweiding, vebouing van gewasse jaar na jaar, ontwikkelings( golf landgoede), die mynbou bedryf ens.
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